4.0 supercharged done: so now what's next project?

**TexasBlownV8** · **4.0 supercharged done: so now what's next project? -** 09-10-2009

I've been thinking of my next project, and will eventually be seeking a higher-power result. Here's some of what I'm thinking.

My current ride of course is a 4.0L supercharged V6, running stock internals, pushing 11-12 psi of boost. The car is not a daily driver, but gets driven about 80/20 street/drag strip. We plan on keeping this car and do not plan on selling it. The mods to it are essentially complete (a few minor items left, nothing major).

Now that the car is essentially complete as to where I wanted to take it, what is next?

First what is most reasonable to ask is, what do I want to do and how will the car be used?. Mainly it would be a track and strip car, and not as much a daily driver. It would still be street-driven, but not a daily driver, unless I needed it to be. initially looking for 400-500hp, with eventually more power potentially down the road.

Here's some thoughts:

1) beef up the engine of the 4.0 V6 and push more boost; in the end, this would get 400-425 hp, and would cost the least (compared to other choices). However, that'd be the top/upper end of what the 4.0 could do. And as some of you have indicated, working with the 4.0L heads/cams is a PITA.

2) get a GT and start from there as a separate project. It would be a great base to build from of course. It would be less power initially compared to my V6, but would be buildable going forward.

3) find a v6 and do a V8 swap. With v6's much cheaper and 4.6L v8 engine/tranny packages becoming quite cheap (when you can find the good deals), this is a viable option, too. The end result would be essentially a GT, and something to build from. Plus, if I wanted a backup 4.0L or one to build up or play with, I'd have one. This is sounding a little better option to me more and more, but is also the most labor intensive (which I don't really mind).

4) the ultimate would be to pick up at GT500. Sure the cost is a lot more, but it is a possible option, too.

5) wait for 2011's. Too new, too far away. Not getting any younger, don't want to wait a couple years for something to come to market, along with the aftermarket items.

I am looking to stay with the S197s for now.

I tend to do most of the work on cars myself, but some things tend to get done by shops as needed, especially specialty things like machine work.

I've read through some of your various build-up and swap threads, too, and those help a lot.

Since some of you have gone through some of the above paths, your collective insight and suggestions are welcomed and appreciated. This is just an investigative stage right now, but I like to take the time, look for good deals that fit plans, and do things slowly.

Let the discussion begin!

shb5007 · 09-10-2009

If you find someone who does heads/cams let me know. :)

Fake_Snake · 09-10-2009

well if you do it your self.. i would buy a base 05 v6 strip down and purchase a built motor or a donor 5.4 3v or 4.6 3v and it will be cheaper then building a v6 block

**TexasBlownV8** · 09-10-2009

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Originally Posted by armycook1981

well if you do it your self.. i would buy a base 05 v6 strip down and purchase a built motor or a donor 5.4 3v or 4.6 3v and it will be cheaper then building a v6 block

Exactly what I'm thinking; put the money into building a 5.4 or 4.6 instead.

siberianmist · 09-20-2009

wait for the 2011s

Mr. Ugly · 09-20-2009

Saw an AC Cobr replica yesterday. I always loved those cars. If I ever had the money, that would be my project car.

**Sniper308** · 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Ugly

Saw an AC Cobr replica yesterday. I always loved those cars. If I ever had the money, that would be my project car.

I've always loved them, too, Norm. If you've never seen it, go rent "The Gumball Rally." (I have a couple of pictures of myself, when I had hair and a beard, with Linda Vaughn, "Miss Hurst Golden Shifter," who has a couple of... well... "memorable"... moments in the last part of the movie.) Great movie if you're a fan of AC Cobras. I love those cars!

Russ

**bscottie** · 09-20-2009

I am pondering my next project, would love to have a built carburated stroker in a S197, can you say wheelies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**TexasBlownV8** · 09-20-2009

My 'next project' will be announced soon ;)
First though, everything is hinging on a pending deal. Regardless what it really ends up being, the Collective will be called upon for wisdom.

**boss 245** · 09-21-2009

Can't wait to see it, the home built cobra jet would be a cool project. You should submit your timeslip to the database,
12.76 with cats n 3:73s' is pretty darn good!!

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TexasBlownV8 Formerly: TexasBlownV6 Offline Posts: 4,445 Real Name: Mike Thanks: 6 Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Georgetown, TX Age: 53	4.0 supercharged done: so now what's next project? - 09-10-2009 I've been thinking of my next project, and will eventually be seeking a higher-power result. Here's some of what I'm thinking. My current ride of course is a 4.0L supercharged V6, running stock internals, pushing 11-12 psi of boost. The car is not a daily driver, but gets driven about 80/20 street/drag strip. We plan on keeping this car and do not plan on selling it. The mods to it are essentially complete (a few minor items left, nothing major). Now that the car is essentially complete as to where I wanted to take it, what is next? First what is most reasonable to ask is, what do I want to do and how will the car be used?. Mainly it would be a track and strip car, and not as much a daily driver. It would still be street-driven, but not a daily driver, unless I needed it to be. initially looking for 400-500hp, with eventually more power potentially down the road. Here's some thoughts: 1) beef up the engine of the 4.0 V6 and push more boost; in the end, this would get 400-425 hp, and would cost the least (compared to other choices). However, that'd be the top/upper end of what the 4.0 could do. And as some of you have indicated, working with the 4.0L heads/cams is a PITA. 2) get a GT and start from there as a separate project. It would be a great base to build from of course. It would be less power initially compared to my V6, but would be buildable going forward. 3) find a v6 and do a V8 swap. With v6's much cheaper and 4.6L v8 engine/tranny packages becoming quite cheap (when you can find the good deals), this is a viable option, too. The end result would be essentially a GT, and something to build from. Plus, if I wanted a backup 4.0L or one to build up or play with, I'd have one. This is sounding a little better option to me more and more, but is also the most labor intensive (which I don't really mind). 4) the ultimate would be to pick up at GT500. Sure the cost is a lot more, but it is a possible option, too. 5) wait for 2011's. Too new, too far away. Not getting any younger, don't want to wait a couple years for something to come to market, along with the aftermarket items. I am looking to stay with the S197s for now. I tend to do most of the work on cars myself, but some things tend to get done by shops as needed, especially specialty things like machine work. I've read through some of your various build-up and swap threads, too, and those help a lot. Since some of you have gone through some of the above paths, your collective insight and suggestions are welcomed and appreciated. This is just an investigative stage right now, but I like to take the time, look for good deals that fit plans, and do things slowly. Let the discussion begin! Mike - "Sally", The Beast: 2005, 5.0L V8 stroker, forged/cammed, KB 2.6 blower @18psi w/GT500 h/e; ARH LT's, x-pipe, Borlas. 4r70W full-auto trans, CircleD converter; Shaftmasters driveshaft; GT500 8.8 w/3.73's; Steeda UCA, panhard bar, brace; CHE lca's & reloc brackets; Steeda Sport springs, Tokico DSpecs, BMR KMember. VEI digital gauges, PLX widebands, SOS dash and custom vent pods. Plus much more. Current best 1/4: 11.41 @ 125 (@ 11 psi, 500 rwhp) (Former V6 Automatic with Vortech SQ supercharger & a/a intercooler -- 310 RWHP, w/best 1/4: 12.79 @ 107) 2006 4.0L V6 with PH Turbo and TR6060. It's not just racing...it's an obsession. "The brawl inspires many, but few acheive greatness"; "Poop happens" - JujuFox

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shb5007 Collective Junkie Offline Posts: 1,433 Real Name: Scott Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Yorktown, Va	09-10-2009 If you find someone who does heads/cams let me know. :) 2005 4.0L Turbocharged Mustang [381/449] Sold 2004 2.0L SVT Focus [1 of 62]

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Fake_Snake Collective Permanent Resident Offline Posts: 4,485 Real Name: Joey Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Tx Age: 31	09-10-2009 well if you do it your self.. i would buy a base 05 v6 strip down and purchase a built motor or a donor 5.4 3v or 4.6 3v and it will be cheaper then building a v6 block 00 TURBO Lightning 05 with a little ole 5.4 4v

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siberianmist 12-Second Member Offline Posts: 346 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: twincities	09-20-2009 wait for the 2011s

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Mr. Ugly Collective ADDICT! Offline Posts: 1,727 Real Name: Norm Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Age: 52	09-20-2009 Saw an AC Cobr replica yesterday. I always loved those cars. If I ever had the money, that would be my project car. 2007 Satin Silver V6 / Explorer Express X-Charger #67 - Xtreme 2.6 - INTERCOOLED! AEM wideband\| Autometer Sport Comp vac/boost gauge \| MSD 8.5mm Superconductor wires \| JBA Silver Ceramic shorties \| FRPP X, Dynomax Bullets, Pype Bomb deletes \| Shaftmasters aluminum driveshaft \| 8.8, t-lok, 3.73 \| H&R Race springs \| Tokico D-Specs & remote adjusters \| J&M adjustable panhard bar \| J&M lower control arms \| J&M upper control arm \| J&M lower control arm brackets \| J&M camber plates \| Eibach F/R Sway Bars \| DD Cobra R wheels 18x9/10 \| Nitto 555 Tires 255/45, 285/40 \| Steeda X5 ball joints \| Steeda bumpsteer kit \| Steeda front control arm bushing kit \| GT takeoff brakes \| California Sunscreen 35%/25% tints \| Redline hood lifts \| Trunk blackout panel \| Zabteck throttle body \| Ford Accessories GT/CS F/R Fascia

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bscottie Just Livin The Dream! Offline Posts: 4,141 Real Name: Bill Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Join Date: May 2006 Location: Southern California! Age: 48	09-20-2009 I am pondering my next project, would love to have a built carburated stroker in a S197, can you say wheelies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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TexasBlownV8 Formerly: TexasBlownV6 Offline Posts: 4,445 Real Name: Mike Thanks: 6 Thanked 19 Times in 18 Posts Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Georgetown, TX Age: 53	09-20-2009 My 'next project' will be announced soon ;) First though, everything is hinging on a pending deal. Regardless what it really ends up being, the Collective will be called upon for wisdom. Mike - "Sally", The Beast: 2005, 5.0L V8 stroker, forged/cammed, KB 2.6 blower @18psi w/GT500 h/e; ARH LT's, x-pipe, Borlas. 4r70W full-auto trans, CircleD converter; Shaftmasters driveshaft; GT500 8.8 w/3.73's; Steeda UCA, panhard bar, brace; CHE lca's & reloc brackets; Steeda Sport springs, Tokico DSpecs, BMR KMember. VEI digital gauges, PLX widebands, SOS dash and custom vent pods. Plus much more. Current best 1/4: 11.41 @ 125 (@ 11 psi, 500 rwhp) (Former V6 Automatic with Vortech SQ supercharger & a/a intercooler -- 310 RWHP, w/best 1/4: 12.79 @ 107) 2006 4.0L V6 with PH Turbo and TR6060. It's not just racing...it's an obsession. "The brawl inspires many, but few acheive greatness"; "Poop happens" - JujuFox

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boss 245 The exception to the rule Offline Posts: 4,059 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hastings Mi Age: 52	09-21-2009 Can't wait to see it, the home built cobra jet would be a cool project. You should submit your timeslip to the database, 12.76 with cats n 3:73s' is pretty darn good!! 2005 V6 Automatic. Vortech V2, Chargecooled, 15 PSI. 4:10's in the 7.5. 11.851@112.74 2.62 pulley 11.76@109 12psi and 75 shot

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